{"id":4441,"date":"2004-05-29T08:58:51","date_gmt":"2004-05-29T08:58:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:8000\/\/?p=4441"},"modified":"2004-05-29T08:58:51","modified_gmt":"2004-05-29T08:58:51","slug":"calling-all-ids-freudians-at-war","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peter.murmann.me\/?p=4441","title":{"rendered":"Calling All Ids: Freudians at War"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"content-image-wrapper\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"150\" height=\"131\" src=\"https:\/\/peter.murmann.me\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/01\/freud-150x131.jpg\" class=\"content-image-block\" alt=\"image\" style=\"max-width: 100%; height: auto; display: block; margin: 15px auto;\" \/><\/div>\n<p> <i>D. D GUTTENPLAN filed this interesting report from Britain in today&#8217;s NYT. I have one recommendation for British vacationers in Spain and Portugal, age 18 and above, who are thinking about seeing a psychotherapist. Look up the local catholic priest. He does not charge any money for a talk therapy. <\/i><\/p>\n<p>LONDON, May 28 &#8211; Who owns psychoanalysis? That question is<\/p>\n<p>at the center of the most recent battle here in the Freud<\/p>\n<p>Wars, the epic (or as the man himself might say,<\/p>\n<p>interminable) struggle over the legacy of Sigmund Freud,<\/p>\n<p>pioneer psychotherapist, cartographer of the unconscious<\/p>\n<p>and former resident of Hampstead, the leafy corner of<\/p>\n<p>Northwest London where the concentration of therapeutic<\/p>\n<p>couches per square mile may be even higher than on the<\/p>\n<p>Upper West Side of Manhattan. <\/p>\n<p>Late last year a new group calling itself the College of<\/p>\n<p>Psychoanalysts sent out a letter inviting British<\/p>\n<p>therapists who met certain qualifications to list<\/p>\n<p>themselves on the organization&#8217;s &#8220;register of<\/p>\n<p>practitioners.&#8221; The British Psychoanalytical Society,<\/p>\n<p>headquarters of classical Freudian analysis, responded with<\/p>\n<p>a statement accusing college members of &#8220;misleading the<\/p>\n<p>public about their training and qualifications.&#8221; And then<\/p>\n<p>the fireworks really started. One founder of the college &#8211;<\/p>\n<p>which is a professional organization rather than a training<\/p>\n<p>institution &#8211; countered with a letter describing the<\/p>\n<p>society&#8217;s action as &#8220;a phobic response to growth as<\/p>\n<p>symbolized in the Oedipal myth.&#8221; An opponent of the<\/p>\n<p>college, on the other hand, described the new group as &#8220;an<\/p>\n<p>association of wannabes and poseurs.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>More recently, the society&#8217;s Web site included a disclaimer<\/p>\n<p>describing the college as a device for allowing therapists<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;to pass themselves off to the public as though they were<\/p>\n<p>trained psychoanalysts.&#8221; In British law, &#8220;passing off&#8221; is a<\/p>\n<p>form of fraud; this was a declaration of war. <\/p>\n<p>Susie Orbach, a therapist, an active member of the college<\/p>\n<p>and the author of the best-selling &#8220;Fat Is a Feminist<\/p>\n<p>Issue&#8221; and other books, says the dispute has already had &#8220;a<\/p>\n<p>chilling effect&#8221; on British intellectual life. To her, the<\/p>\n<p>society&#8217;s argument that the title psychoanalyst &#8220;refers not<\/p>\n<p>to what the practitioner does, but what they have been<\/p>\n<p>trained to do&#8221; is nonsensical, a spurious restraint on<\/p>\n<p>trade. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I do the work,&#8221; she said. &#8220;My contributions are<\/p>\n<p>contributions to psychoanalysis, its theory and clinical<\/p>\n<p>practice, not to some other field.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>On the surface, this is a parochial argument about labels<\/p>\n<p>and credentials, a tempest in a Viennese teacup &#8211; or at<\/p>\n<p>most, a professional turf war. But you don&#8217;t have to probe<\/p>\n<p>the protagonists too deeply to discover that this is also a<\/p>\n<p>battle over the nature of therapy itself &#8211; what it is, what<\/p>\n<p>it does, how it works. And it quickly becomes apparent that<\/p>\n<p>alongside the intellectual controversy is a bare knuckles<\/p>\n<p>fight over money, power and prestige. These people, after<\/p>\n<p>all, are professionals of the ego. <\/p>\n<p>The roots of this battle are in some ways peculiar to<\/p>\n<p>Britain. Unlike American psychotherapy, which is regulated<\/p>\n<p>by states (with some states, including New York starting<\/p>\n<p>next year, licensing psychoanalysts as a separate<\/p>\n<p>category), British psychotherapy is completely unregulated<\/p>\n<p>by the government. Also, until recently, most<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysts in the United States were required to have<\/p>\n<p>medical degrees. The British analysts, however, like others<\/p>\n<p>in Europe, follow Freud&#8217;s view in his essay &#8220;On Lay<\/p>\n<p>Analysis&#8221; and have never required medical training or<\/p>\n<p>graduate study in psychology. And because almost all<\/p>\n<p>psychotherapy in Britain takes place outside the National<\/p>\n<p>Health Service, the government has remained neutral.<\/p>\n<p>Legally, anyone with sufficient chutzpah can call himself a<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalyst here. <\/p>\n<p>Still, the arguments and effects of the dispute are likely<\/p>\n<p>to reverberate on both sides of the Atlantic. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The same conflict exists in the United States,&#8221; says Jaine<\/p>\n<p>Darwin, president of the American Psychological<\/p>\n<p>Association&#8217;s division of psychoanalysis. &#8220;There are the<\/p>\n<p>same arguments about standards within the profession,&#8221; she<\/p>\n<p>added, having to do with licensing, training requirements<\/p>\n<p>and government registration. <\/p>\n<p>Some of these battles have been raging for years. In 1989<\/p>\n<p>the American Psychoanalytic Association &#8211; which had<\/p>\n<p>required members to have a medical degree &#8211; agreed to<\/p>\n<p>settle an antitrust lawsuit and allow psychologists, social<\/p>\n<p>workers, nurses and other mental health professionals to<\/p>\n<p>enter analytic training. That opening to the outside,<\/p>\n<p>however grudgingly done, probably saved American<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysis from extinction. (In Britain the members of<\/p>\n<p>the British Psychoanalytical Society have an average age of<\/p>\n<p>65.) <\/p>\n<p>The flow of new analysts, though, raised a new set of<\/p>\n<p>problems. New candidates had to agree to the traditional<\/p>\n<p>training regime: a personal analysis four or five times a<\/p>\n<p>week lasting several years, and a number of supervised<\/p>\n<p>training analyses where the candidate saw patients, again<\/p>\n<p>four or five times a week, under supervision. What is so<\/p>\n<p>magical, some wanted to know, about four-times-a-week<\/p>\n<p>analysis? Why not three times a week, or two? Is there a<\/p>\n<p>real difference between analytic psychotherapy and<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysis? <\/p>\n<p>These questions are now being asked in Britain, along with<\/p>\n<p>some others. What began, said Joseph Schwartz, as &#8220;a simple<\/p>\n<p>jurisdictional dispute &#8211; like a fight between rival unions&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8211; has the potential to become something far more<\/p>\n<p>interesting. An American transplant to Britain and the<\/p>\n<p>author of &#8220;Cassandra&#8217;s Daughter: A History of<\/p>\n<p>Psychoanalysis&#8221; (Penguin, 2001), Mr. Schwartz is a<\/p>\n<p>Berkeley-trained physicist as well as a therapist on the<\/p>\n<p>register of the College of Psychoanalysis. <\/p>\n<p>Ever since the day in 1911 when Alfred Adler and his<\/p>\n<p>followers left the Vienna Psychoanalytic Society, the<\/p>\n<p>history of psychoanalysis has been notoriously divided.<\/p>\n<p>Even so, all psychoanalysts share certain beliefs: the<\/p>\n<p>importance of the unconscious, for example. And Freud&#8217;s own<\/p>\n<p>legacy is still central. His sense of mistreatment by<\/p>\n<p>Viennese academics is one reason psychoanalytic training<\/p>\n<p>still goes on mostly in private institutes rather than in<\/p>\n<p>university departments. <\/p>\n<p>Shaped partly by their divergent histories and partly by<\/p>\n<p>differing national cultures, British and American<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysis became quite different enterprises. In<\/p>\n<p>Britain, the encouragement of lay analysis and the<\/p>\n<p>influence of Bloomsbury figures like Virginia Woolf, who<\/p>\n<p>published Freud&#8217;s writings in English, and whose brother<\/p>\n<p>Adrian Stephen actually trained as an analyst, gave<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysis a distinctly literary flavor. The Hungarian<\/p>\n<p>refugee Melanie Klein, with her emphasis on internal<\/p>\n<p>experiences, envy and aggression, became the dominant<\/p>\n<p>figure in postwar British psychoanalysis. <\/p>\n<p>During the same period in the United States the vast<\/p>\n<p>majority of psychoanalysts were also medical doctors. One<\/p>\n<p>consequence of this was that much more psychoanalysis in<\/p>\n<p>the United States took place in institutional settings like<\/p>\n<p>hospitals or asylums. Another was a gradual loss of<\/p>\n<p>prestige as psychiatry, with its growing armory of<\/p>\n<p>antidepressant and antipsychotic drugs, turned toward the<\/p>\n<p>pharmacy and away from the talking cure. <\/p>\n<p>Both sides of the current dispute in Britain put clinical<\/p>\n<p>practice at the heart of psychoanalysis. Here the<\/p>\n<p>differences are as much political as theoretical. Analysts<\/p>\n<p>today are already free to discount Freud&#8217;s focus on<\/p>\n<p>instinct. And though the requirement of analysis four or<\/p>\n<p>five times a week for candidates does guarantee steady work<\/p>\n<p>for the training analysts, their trainees are going to have<\/p>\n<p>to compete for patients in a world enthralled by quick<\/p>\n<p>fixes, whether out of a bottle or in a behavioral<\/p>\n<p>therapist&#8217;s office, and where the superiority of<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysis &#8211; once commonly described as the &#8220;gold<\/p>\n<p>standard&#8221; of therapy &#8211; is no longer taken for granted. <\/p>\n<p>Julia Fabricius, incoming president of the British<\/p>\n<p>Psychoanalytical Society, says, &#8220;Psychoanalysis as an<\/p>\n<p>academic discipline is open to anybody,&#8221; but she defends<\/p>\n<p>the society&#8217;s qualifications for membership. She adds that<\/p>\n<p>she does not regard psychotherapists who aren&#8217;t analysts as<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;second-class citizens.&#8221; <\/p>\n<p>Robert Maxwell Young, a Yale-educated British-trained<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalytic psychotherapist and former Cambridge<\/p>\n<p>historian of science, is outside both camps. Though he<\/p>\n<p>points out that he held the first chair of psychoanalytic<\/p>\n<p>studies in Europe, at the University of Sheffield in<\/p>\n<p>England, he is not a member of the society. And he has no<\/p>\n<p>desire to join the college. &#8220;I don&#8217;t go to parties where<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not invited,&#8221; he said of the college&#8217;s claim on the<\/p>\n<p>label psychoanalyst. &#8220;Even so, I have nightmares,&#8221; he<\/p>\n<p>confesses, about not being allowed into psychoanalytic<\/p>\n<p>meetings. <\/p>\n<p>What gives the dispute over the College of Psychoanalysts<\/p>\n<p>even more urgency is the sense that, in the next few years,<\/p>\n<p>psychoanalysis in Britain will soon be regulated. Lists and<\/p>\n<p>standards are going to be drawn up. Battle lines are<\/p>\n<p>forming over who who sets the standards and who keeps the<\/p>\n<p>lists. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2004\/05\/29\/arts\/29PSYC.html?ex=1086846149&amp;ei=1&amp;en=76bb7f71a6f5c6b8\">http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2004\/05\/29\/arts\/29PSYC.html?ex=1086846149&amp;ei=1&amp;en=76bb7f71a6f5c6b8<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D. 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