{"id":5337,"date":"2026-02-08T18:15:34","date_gmt":"2026-02-08T18:15:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/peter.murmann.me\/?p=5337"},"modified":"2026-02-08T18:17:57","modified_gmt":"2026-02-08T18:17:57","slug":"the-puzzling-gap-between-how-old-you-are-and-how-old-you-think-you-are","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/peter.murmann.me\/?p=5337","title":{"rendered":"The Puzzling Gap Between How Old You Are and How Old You Think You Are"},"content":{"rendered":"

Just came across this excellent article in The Atlantic explaining why “t]here are good reasons you always feel 20 percent younger than your actual age.” Actually a feel a full 33% younger.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

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Jennifer Senior (no, this is not a pen name) writes:<\/div>\n<\/div>\n
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This past Thanksgiving, I asked my mother how old she was in her head. She didn\u2019t pause, didn\u2019t look up, didn\u2019t even ask me to repeat the question, which would have been natural, given that it was both syntactically awkward and a little odd. We were in my brother\u2019s dining room, setting the table. My mother folded another napkin. \u201cForty-five,\u201d she said.<\/div>\n
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She is 76.<\/div>\n
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Why do so many people have an immediate, intuitive grasp of this highly abstract concept<\/a>\u2014\u201csubjective age,\u201d it\u2019s called\u2014when randomly presented with it? It\u2019s bizarre, if you think about it. Certainly most of us don\u2019t believe ourselves to be shorter or taller than we actually are. We don\u2019t think of ourselves as having smaller ears or longer noses or curlier hair. Most of us also know where our bodies are in space, what physiologists call \u201cproprioception.\u201d<\/div>\n
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Yet we seem to have an awfully rough go of locating ourselves in time. A friend, nearing 60, recently told me that whenever he looks in the mirror, he\u2019s not so much unhappy with his appearance as startled by it\u2014\u201cas if there\u2019s been some sort of error\u201d were his exact words. (High-school reunions can have this same confusing effect. You look around at your lined and thickened classmates, wondering how they could have so violently capitulated to age; then you see photographs of yourself from that same event and realize: Oh<\/i>.) The gulf between how old we are and how old we believe ourselves to be can often be measured in light-years\u2014or at least a goodly number of old-fashioned Earth ones.<\/div>\n
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Adults over 40 perceive themselves to be, on average, about 20 percent younger than their actual age.<\/div>\n
As one might suspect, there are studies that examine this phenomenon. (There\u2019s a study for everything.) As one might also suspect, most of them are pretty unimaginative. Many have their origins in the field of gerontology, designed primarily with an eye toward health outcomes<\/a>, which means they ask participants how old they feel, which those participants generally take to mean how old do you feel physically<\/i>, which then leads to the rather unsurprising conclusion that if you feel older, you probably are, in the sense that you\u2019re aging faster.<\/div>\n
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But \u201cHow old do you feel?\u201d is an altogether different question from \u201cHow old are you in your head?\u201d The most inspired paper I read about subjective age, from 2006, asked this of its 1,470 participants\u2014in a Danish population (Denmark being the kind of place where studies like these would happen)\u2014and what the two authors discovered is that adults over 40 perceive themselves to be, on average, about 20 percent younger than their actual age<\/a>. \u201cWe ran this thing, and the data were gorgeous,\u201d says David C. Rubin (75 in real life, 60 in his head), one of the paper\u2019s authors and a psychology and neuroscience professor at Duke University. \u201cIt was just all these beautiful, smooth curves.\u201d<\/div>\n
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Why we\u2019re possessed of this urge to subtract is another matter. Rubin and his co-author, Dorthe Berntsen, didn\u2019t make it the focus of this particular paper, and the researchers who do often propose a crude, predictable answer\u2014namely, that lots of people consider aging a catastrophe, which, while true, seems to tell only a fraction of the story. You could just as well make a different case: that viewing yourself as younger is a form of optimism, rather than denialism. It says that you envision many generative years ahead of you, that you will not be written off, that your future is not one long, dreary corridor of locked doors.<\/div>\n
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I think of my own numbers, for instance\u2014which, though a slight departure from the Rubin-Berntsen rule, are still within a reasonable range (or so Rubin assures me). I\u2019m 53 in real life but suspended at 36 in my head, and if I stop my brain from doing its usual Tilt-A-Whirl for long enough, I land on the same explanation: At 36, I knew the broad contours of my life, but hadn\u2019t yet filled them in. I was professionally established, but still brimmed with potential. I was paired off with my husband, but not yet lost in the marshes of a long marriage (and, okay, not yet a tiresome fishwife). I was soon to be pregnant, but not yet a mother fretting about eating habits, screen habits, study habits, the brutal folkways of adolescents, the porn merchants of the internet.<\/div>\n
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\u201cI\u2019m 35,\u201d wrote my friend Richard Primus, 53 in real life and a constitutional-law professor at the University of Michigan Law School. \u201cI think it\u2019s because that\u2019s the age I was when my major life questions\/statuses reached the resolutions\/conditions in which they\u2019ve since remained.\u201d So: kind of like my answer, but more optimistically rendered. He continued: \u201cMedieval Christian theologians asked the intriguing question \u2018How old are people in heaven?\u2019 The dominant answer: 33. Partly bc age of Jesus at crucifixion. But I think partly bc it feels like a kind of peak for the combined vigor-maturity index.\u201d<\/div>\n
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The combined vigor-\u00admaturity index: Yes!<\/div>\n
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Richard was replying to me on Twitter, where I\u2019d tossed out my query to the crowd: \u201cHow old are you in your head?\u201d (Turns out I\u2019m not the only one with this impulse; Sari Botton, the founder of Oldster Magazine<\/i>, regularly publishes questionnaires she has issued to novelists, artists, and activists of a certain age, and this is the second question<\/a>.) Ian Leslie, the author of Conflicted<\/a><\/i> and two other social-\u00adscience books (32 in his head, 51 in \u201cboring old reality\u201d), took a similar view to mine and Richard\u2019s, but added an astute and humbling observation: Internally viewing yourself as substantially younger than you are can make for some serious social weirdness.<\/div>\n
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\u201c30 year olds should be aware that for better or for worse, the 50 year old they\u2019re talking to thinks they\u2019re roughly the same age!\u201d he wrote. \u201cWas at a party over the summer where average was about 28 and I had to make a conscious effort to remember I wasn\u2019t the same\u2014they can tell of course, so it\u2019s asymmetrical.\u201d<\/div>\n
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Yes. They can tell. I\u2019ve had this unsettling experience, seeing little difference between the 30-something before me and my 50-something self, when suddenly the 30-something will make a comment that betrays just how aware she is of the age gap between us, that this gap seems enormous, that in her eyes I may as well be Dame Judi Dench.<\/div>\n
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Although many hewed close to the Rubin-Berntsen rule, the replies I got on Twitter were not always about potential. Many carried with them a whiff of unexpected poignancy. Trauma sometimes played a role: One person was stuck at 32, unable to see themselves as any older than a sibling who\u2019d died; another was stuck for a long time at age 12, the year her father joined a cult. (Rubin has written about this phenomenon too\u2014the centrality of certain events to our memories, especially calamitous ones. Sometimes we freeze at the age of our traumas.)<\/div>\n
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My friend Alan, who is in his 50s, told me he thinks of himself as 38 because he still thinks of his 98-year-old father as 80. The writer Molly Jong-Fast replied that she\u2019s 19 because that\u2019s the age she got sober. One 36-year-old woman told me she thought the pandemic was a time thief\u2014she simply hadn\u2019t accumulated enough new experiences to justify the addition of more chronological years\u2014which made her younger in her head sometimes, as if she were willing back the clock.<\/div>\n
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When I mentioned to a colleague that I was writing this piece, he told me he was 12 in his head, not because he thinks of himself as a child, but because his inner self has remained unchanged as he\u2019s aged; it\u2019s \u201cthe same consciousness as always since I became conscious.\u201d His words instantly brought to mind a line from the opening pages of Milan Kundera\u2019s Immortality<\/a><\/i>: \u201cThere is a certain part of all of us that lives outside of time.\u201d<\/div>\n
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Of course, not everyone I spoke with viewed themselves as younger. There were a few old souls, something I would have once said about myself. I felt 40 at 10, when the gossip and cliquishness of other little girls seemed not just cruel but dull; I felt 40 at 22, when I barely went to bars; I felt 40 at 25, when I started accumulating noncollege friends and realized I was partial to older people\u2019s company. And when I turned 40, I was genuinely relieved, as if I\u2019d finally achieved some kind of cosmic internal-external temporal alignment.<\/div>\n
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But over time, I rolled backwards. Other people do this too, just starting at a younger age\u201425\u2014and Rubin has a theory about why this might be. Adolescence and emerging adulthood are times dense with firsts (first kiss, first time having sex, first love, first foray into the world without your parents\u2019 watchful gaze); they are also times when our brains, for a variety of neuro\u00addevelopmental reasons, are inclined to feel things more intensely, especially the devil\u2019s buzz of a good, foolhardy risk. The uniqueness and density of these periods have manifested themselves in other areas of Rubin\u2019s research. Years ago, he and other researchers showed that adults have an outsize number of memories from the ages of about 15 to 25. They called this phenomenon \u201cthe reminiscence bump.\u201d (This is generally used to explain why we\u2019re so responsive to the music of our adolescence\u2014\u00adwhich in my case means my iPhone is loaded with a lot more Duran Duran songs than any dignified person should admit.)<\/div>\n
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Rubin and Berntsen made a second intriguing discovery in their work on subjective age: People younger than 25 mainly said they felt older than they are, not younger\u2014which, again, makes sense if you\u2019ve had even a passing acquaintance with a 10-year-old, a teenager, a 21-year-old. They\u2019re eager for more independence and to be taken more seriously; in their head, they\u2019re ready for both, though their prefrontal cortex is basically a bunch of unripe bananas.<\/div>\n
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In Rubin and Berntsen\u2019s 2006 study, socioeconomic status, gender, and education did not significantly affect their data. One wonders if this has something to do with the fact that they conducted their research in Denmark, a country with substantially less income inequality and racial heterogeneity than our own.<\/div>\n
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The picture changes when there\u2019s more variety: A 2021 meta-\u00adanalysis of 294 papers examining subjective-\u00adage data from across the globe found that the discrepancy between chronological age and internal age was greatest in the United States, Western Europe, and Australia\/Oceania<\/a>. Asia had a smaller gap. Africa had the smallest, which could be read as an economic sign (poverty might play a role) but also a cultural one: Elders in collectivist societies are accorded more respect and have more extended-family support.<\/div>\n
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\u201cCould it be that feeling younger is actually dysfunctional and no longer helping you focus on what\u2019s going on? That\u2019s the more complicated question,\u201d says Hans-Werner Wahl (69 in real life, 55 in his head), a co-author of the meta-analysis. \u201cA lower subjective age may be predictive of better health. But there are other populations around the globe for whom it is not necessary to feel younger. And they\u2019re not less healthy.\u201d<\/div>\n
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If you mentally view yourself as younger\u2014if you believe you have a few pivots left\u2014you still see yourself as useful.<\/div>\n
This seems to be the conclusion of Becca Levy, a professor of epidemiology and psychology at the Yale School of Public Health. As a young graduate student, she went to Japan and couldn\u2019t help noticing not just that people lived longer, but that their attitude toward aging was more positive\u2014and her decades of research since have shown a very persuasive connection between the two. In the introduction to her book, Breaking the Age Code<\/a><\/i>, she describes newsstands in Tokyo lined with manga books filled with story lines about older people falling in love. She reports wandering Tokyo on Keiro No Hi, or \u201cRespect for the Aged Day,\u201d and seeing people in their 70s and 80s lifting weights in the park. She talks about music classes filled with 75-year-olds learning how to play electric slide guitar.<\/div>\n
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At first blush, Levy\u2019s scholar\u00adship may seem to quarrel with the literature of subjective age. But maybe it\u2019s a complement. What underpins them both is an enduring sense of agency: If you mentally view yourself as younger\u2014if you believe you have a few pivots left\u2014you still see yourself as useful; if you believe that aging itself is valuable, an added good, then you also see yourself as useful. In a better world, older people would feel more treasured, certainly. But even now, a good many of us seem capable of combining the two ideas, merging acceptance of our age with a sense of hope. When reading over the many Oldster<\/i> questionnaires, I was struck by how many people said that their present age was their favorite one. A reassuring number of respondents didn\u2019t want to trade their hard-\u00adearned wisdom\u2014or humility, or self-\u00adacceptance, whatever they had accrued along the way\u2014for some earlier moment.<\/div>\n
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Recently, I wrote to Margaret Atwood, asking her how old she is in her<\/i> head. In the few interactions I\u2019ve had with her, she seems quite sanguine about aging<\/a>. Her reply:<\/div>\n
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At 53 you worry about being old compared to younger people. At 83 you enjoy the moment, and time travel here and there in the past 8 decades. You don\u2019t fret about seeming old, because hey, you really are old! You and your friends make Old jokes. You have more fun than at 53, in some ways. Wait, you\u2019ll see! \ud83d\ude42<\/i><\/div>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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